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Давайте поддержим русский Рэп!</p> mybb@mybb.ru (TTukyJIb) Thu, 09 Apr 2009 15:05:26 +0400 https://russiarapvipcentr.mybb.ru/viewtopic.php?pid=5#p5 https://russiarapvipcentr.mybb.ru/viewtopic.php?pid=4#p4 <p>Творчество Сибирского синдиката</p> mybb@mybb.ru (TTukyJIb) Thu, 09 Apr 2009 15:00:32 +0400 https://russiarapvipcentr.mybb.ru/viewtopic.php?pid=4#p4 https://russiarapvipcentr.mybb.ru/viewtopic.php?pid=3#p3 <p>Творчиство Касты</p> mybb@mybb.ru (TTukyJIb) Thu, 09 Apr 2009 14:58:52 +0400 https://russiarapvipcentr.mybb.ru/viewtopic.php?pid=3#p3 https://russiarapvipcentr.mybb.ru/viewtopic.php?pid=2#p2 <p>Что это такое? А вот что:</p> <p>Русский рэп — явление очень молодое, по сравнению, скажем, с русским роком. Так же, как и у рока в нежном возрасте, у русского рэпа есть одна главная проблема — подражательность. Многие не воспринимают русский рэп, возможно справедливо считая его калькой с западных образцов, со всей присущей атрибутикой стиля «черных братьев». </p> <p>В тоже время российский рэп очень своеобразен. Он стремится придерживаться корней хип-хопа, но часто в исполнении русских это выглядит нелепо. Иногда настолько нелепо, что это противоречит русским устоям, традициям. С другой стороны — начинает появляться в России рэп, который пытается быть привязанным исключительно к отечественным нормам — возможно, это и есть правильный путь, но при этом пропадает что-то очень важное, неотъемлемое, такой рэп часто бывает без изюминки. Сегодня главная беда российского рэпа в том, что очень мало талантов в рэпе и слишком много предрассудков вокруг этой темы, что ставит рэп в России в невыгодную ситуацию. Весьма интересен тот факт, что если хип-хоп зарождался как музыка и субкультура негритянского гетто с резко агрессивным отношением к белому населению (причем это справедливо не только для США, но и, например, для Франции), то в России он появился как интернациональная культура, воспринятая, преимущественно, белой частью населения, поэтому ни о какой субкультуре гетто в России не может быть и речи. </p> <p>В этом смысле лидеры хип-хопа в России оказались в странной ситуации, так как для появления хип-хопа в нашей стране не было объективных социальных причин. Однако был найден выход из ситуации, и сейчас тексты в духе русского рока приспосабливаются к новым музыкальным формам, то есть к рэпу. Противопоставление строится не на расовом признаке, а по социальным (бедные – богатые), культурным (конформисты – нонконформисты) и другим категориям. Этот подход оправдал себя. Благодаря продюсерским способностям Шеffа был раскручен рэп-исполнитель Децл, песни которого занимали верхние строчки почти всех молодежных хит-парадов России. Рэп набирает силу и в ближайшие один-два года эта тенденция, судя по всему, сохранится. </p> <p>В России рэп появился только в конце восьмидесятых - начале девяностых годов. Сформировалась так называемая первая волна русского рэпа. Группы, создававшиеся тогда, были чистейшим underground'ом, основавшемся только на собственных амбициях и стремлении продвигать культуру хип-хопа в России. </p> <p>Улица в то время звала и затягивала молодое поколение куда сильнее, чем слепая вера в счастливое завтра, или перспектива учебы в ПТУ, или ВУЗе. В это же время стали появляться немногочисленные рэп - и брейк-комманды. Записи с их выступлениями можно было достать из-под полы за весьма определенную плату и в строго определенном месте. Попытки подражать американскому стилю жизни и заморской культуре, сочинение целых поэм на тему окружающего мира со смелой лексикой вытекали в попытки выступлений в подъездах и дворах. На большую сцену пробиться было невозможно, да, собственно, никто особо и не старался. Для многих рэп становился не смыслом жизни, а оружием, с помощью которого они пытались заработать репутацию на улицах. Но, тем не менее, все большее и большее количество молодежи стали всерьез воспринимать русский хип-хоп как культуру, причем теперь окончательно отделившуюся от американского хип-хопа и имеющую с ним только общие корни. Тогда же пришло и осознание того, что &quot;обноски южного Бронкса&quot; (широкие штаны, толстовки слоновьих размеров и бандана), сигары, марихуана и пушка за поясом - всего лишь стереотипы, от которых было бы неплохо избавиться, хотя некоторые до сих пор считают, что в этом - изюминка русского хип-хопа. </p> <p>Родители явно были не в восторге от того, что их чада слушают или даже исполняют музыку, в которой &quot;мат через слово&quot; и которая пропагандировала &quot;скорее анархию, чем какую либо более-менее приличную систему устройства государства&quot;. В целом, так оно и было. В текстах выражалось все недовольство жизнью, страх перед будущим, стремление все бросить к чертовой матери и начать жить заново, по-другому, а в некоторых - откровенный пофигизм. Но все это было не просто в виде агрессии из наушников, а скорее походило на призыв о помощи. Истории о наркотиках и передозах, жизни и смерти, братстве и предательстве, любви и расставаниях, переложенные на ритмичную и жесткую, но, тем не менее, красивую и мелодичную музыку навсегда завоевывали сердца мальчишек и девчонок, оказавшихся в похожих ситуациях и знавших далеко не со слов, что такое «дворовая» жизнь. <br />И все же рэп-ритмы из американских черных кварталов приживались у нас плохо. </p> <p>Пожалуй, одним из первых российских Колумбов нового стиля был уроженец Донецка Влад Валов (Шеff), который в 1989-м, переехав в Санкт-Петербург, создал группу Bad Balance. По вечерам ребята собирались на Дворцовой площади, чтобы подработать: потанцевать и почитать рэп. Однажды их случайно снял питерский ТВ-канал и показал 3-минутный сюжет. Уже к лету 1990 года был полностью готов первый альбом на базе домашней студии. Речи о его выпуске не могло даже идти, поэтому он, по словам его создателей, был «зарыт в укромном уголке под Питером до 2009 года». В 1998 году, после выхода альбома «Город Джунглей», Влад Валов создал проект «Bad B. Альянс», в рамках которого стали сосуществовать несколько групп и рэперов. Среди них – «Легальный Бизне$$», ДеЦл и ШеFF с сольным проектом. В Москве в начале 90-х годов самой известной группой стала команда «Мальчишник», эпатировавшая слушателей откровенными текстами о сексе без перерыва. Ее участники, в том числе Дельфин, когда-то танцевали на Арбате, где все и познакомились. В период с 1992 по 1994 год группа являлась одной из самых популярных рэп-команд в стране. Сейчас Дельфин отказывается называть себя рэпером. </p> <p>Среди русских рэп музыкантов особенно выделились несколько групп, таких как &quot;Bad Ballance&quot;, &quot;Легальный бизнес&quot;, &quot;Дерево жизни&quot; &quot;Big Black Boots&quot;, &quot;White Hot Ice&quot;, &quot;Master Spensor&quot;, &quot;Kasta&quot; и еще несколько как московских, так и питерских команд. </p> <p>В отличие от Валова, который пытался сделать России искусственную рэп-прививку, сегодняшние рэп-команды экспериментируют со стилями. Смесь рэпа и r’n’b сегодня предлагает украинско-белорусский проект «Серега», участники которого переманили в свой коллектив лауреата эстрадного конкурса «Славянский базар-2003» Максима Сапатькова. </p> <p>Однако настоящим рэп-прорывом сегодня стали выходцы из провинциальной криминальной столицы – Ростова-на-Дону. Такие команды, как «Каста», «Крестная семья» и «Ю.Г.», рассказывают о том, что происходит вокруг них: о нищете, о криминале, о драках, о любви и о надеждах нового поколения. Но на широкое признание, как, впрочем, в свое время было с рокерами, им пока рассчитывать не приходится. </p> <p>Национальные телеканалы, увлекаясь «фабриками звезд», стараются просто не замечать альтернативный жанр. Мелькающие сегодня на телеканалах новые российские рэп-команды по меньшей мере третья волна рэпа в России. Что же до радио, то новая музыка улиц не вписывается ни в один существующий формат. Однако эта музыка появляется в клубах и подвалах, причем порою именно в тех, где 30 лет назад пели рок. Возможно, так же, как в свое время и рокеры, русские рэперы скоро заставят говорить о себе всех. Рэп превратится из субкультуры в культуру массовую, которая окажется способна забыть о раскрученных за огромные деньги ни о чем не говорящих песнях хорошеньких мальчиков и девочек.</p> mybb@mybb.ru (TTukyJIb) Thu, 09 Apr 2009 14:57:03 +0400 https://russiarapvipcentr.mybb.ru/viewtopic.php?pid=2#p2